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DisLove E161: Discover How Guided Tours And In-Park Quests with Rabbit Hole Quests Add More Magic to Your Disney Vacations

• Vanessa Ferguson and Kris Johns with special guest Stefan Mumaw • Season 7 • Episode 161

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Ever walked through Disney certain you’d seen it all—then spotted one tiny detail that changed how the whole land feels? That spark of discovery drives this episode, where we explore the most rewarding Disney tours that add depth and story to your day, then sit down with Stefan from Rabbit Hole Quest Craft to uncover escape-style adventures that turn the parks into interactive playgrounds.

We start with essential picks for curious fans looking to see Walt Disney World in a new light. Keys to the Kingdom at Magic Kingdom dives into park history and those legendary utilidors beneath Main Street. Over at Animal Kingdom, Caring for Giants delivers a meaningful and affordable look at elephant care and conservation. In Epcot, Behind the Seeds takes you behind the Living with the Land boats to explore hydroponics, sustainability, and beneficial insects firsthand—perfect for anyone who loves learning how Disney grows the future.

For more immersive experiences, we compare the adventurous Wild Africa Trek with the relaxed, food-forward Savor the Savannah, two premium Animal Kingdom offerings worth the splurge. Short on time? Up Close with Rhinos gives guests a rare, intimate view of one of the park’s most inspiring species. And for a nighttime twist, Starlight Safari at Animal Kingdom Lodge lets you explore the savannas with night-vision goggles—no park ticket required.

Throughout the discussion, we share practical tips: when to book, how to handle mobility needs, where discounts might apply, and what to expect in terms of pacing and accessibility. You’ll also hear a few fun extras—like trivia about The Land pavilion’s early sponsors and the original Soarin’ concept—plus a few classic Walt quotes that still resonate with how guests learn and explore today.

Then we welcome Stefan from Rabbit Hole Quest Craft, a lifelong Disneyland local reimagining the parks as story-driven scavenger experiences. His team’s handcrafted “quests” combine analog and digital gameplay—think ciphers, clue cards, and location-based puzzles—leading to a final story payoff sealed in a locked envelope. It’s National Treasure meets The Goonies, with a sprinkle of Disney storytelling magic. You’ll

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SPEAKER_00:

Welcome to the Disney Love Podcast with Vanessa and Chris. I'm Vanessa Ferguson.

SPEAKER_03:

And I'm Chris Johns.

SPEAKER_00:

We'd like to welcome you to show number 161. And for any listeners joining us for the first time, our show features things we love at Disney, and in each episode, we typically have a guest who creates Disney Magic for our listeners at home and on their Disney vacations. From vacation planners to product producers, our guests can bring Disney magic into your life. We are so glad to be back on after a short break, and we are excited for today's show. And a quick reminder: if you are a longtime listener, please make sure to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen. We love to give shout-outs and upcoming episodes, and of course, we appreciate those because that helps the show grow. Now, before we get started with uh introducing our show, Chris, we have a message from our friends Kevin and Amanda at We're in the Park.

SPEAKER_03:

Yes. Our friends Kevin and Amanda at We're in the Park, they make scavenger hunt game packs. And what they do is they take your Disney experience and make it even more fun. And what they do is it's a scavenger hunt within the park, and they're gonna give you cards with clues. And so not only are you gonna experience all your rides, food, and fun with family, but you're also gonna have a family competition. And it's great for Disney veterans like Vanessa and myself who have been there many, many, many times as well as first-time visitors. And what's awesome is they have game packs for both Disneyland, Disney World, as well as Universal. And if you use the code DISLOVE10, you'll get 10% off your next order. We met Kevin and Amanda, and we were in. Is this is it in Anaheim? We were in Anaheim. That was one of the questions. I got it right. And what was awesome was that we had a lot of fun, and you're gonna see details that you've walked past a hundred times, a thousand times, ten thousand times, and you never notice. But what is awesome with this game is it's gonna give you a chance to fully experience Disney.

SPEAKER_00:

And I'll make sure to put the link in the show notes with along with the promo code that Chris just shared. So before we get started, our show today is going to feature Stefan with Rabbit Hole Quest, and they have some really, really cool things, which is kind of an even deeper thing than Kevin and Amanda are have been working with him over at Rabbit Hole Quest Craft, and we're excited to share all about it's almost like an escape room in the park. So you follow all these tips and clues, and then you are going to have an amazing time. So we have our call with Stefan a little bit later from Rabbit Hole Quest Craft, and super excited to share all about what he has in his or at Disneyland, which is what Chris was just talking about, how we got to meet Kevin and Amanda out there. So before we get to our talk with Stefan, we want to talk about Disney tours and all the tours that are worth taking. And if you have never done a tour, or maybe it's been a while since you've done one, because some of these have changed since COVID. So it's going to be exciting to look at all of the ones that are some of the good experiences happening right now. They give you a real deep behind the scenes look at Disney and all of the storytelling, which I thought was perfect to go along with our interview with Stefan because that's what these experiences are with the quests that he has and then with the packs that Kevin and Amanda have. It's all about seeing those little details. And taking one of these tours really gives you a backstage view of some of the things. Now, the first one is Keys to the Kingdom at Magic Kingdom. And I took this one many years ago with my parents. It's a five-hour tour and it's at the Magic Kingdom. You get all kinds of behind the scenes, lots of great park history. You get to go into the utilidors, the infamous utilidors. I don't think, Chris, you've ever been on something to go in the utilitors, have you?

SPEAKER_03:

That's correct.

SPEAKER_00:

So I've had a chance to be in the utilidors. Chris has not. It is pretty, it is a lot of walking, so that's something to keep in mind if you have anybody with mobility issues. But really, any of you that love Disney history, if you're like me and you like to get the books and read the trivia and all of that stuff related to the park and the history of the park, you're going to love this. And they typically they'll have a quick service lunch at the end. And you do get to ride one of the rides as they're giving you some of the history and background with that ride. So I don't want to, I don't want to give that away too much, but it's really just a fun experience. I would say that this is definitely geared towards teens and adults, unless you have like a kid that is super into Disney history, which is possible. I know there are some out there, but it is a lot of fun. You definitely want to book this one ahead of time, just like with most of these. Now, the second one we're going to talk about does not require a lot of upfront planning, and that's called Caring for Giants at Animal Kingdom. This is a one-hour elephant encounter, and I did this with my friend Judy. We did this for her birthday one year when we were down, and it was a lot of fun. And it was just a one-hour tour. So Chris and our daughter kind of hung out and they went and did other things at Animal Kingdom while we were doing the experience. But it's a neat, we actually walked up the day of and booked it. And I know that you can do it. I can't remember if this one's ahead of time or not, but we just walked up and they had a kiosk in Africa, kind of near the safari, and you sign up for it. It's called Caring for Giants. And it was super cool because you got to meet the caregivers or the caretakers, and you got to hear how they were working with some of the different individuals who are really working to try to preserve the habitat and to ensure that elephants in their natural habitats are kept safe. It was really interesting. They showed us some things with different research and things that where they work to ensure that because elephants can be, because they're such a large animal, they are can be a nuisance related to certain crops and things. So they were showing how they do some things to help farmers ensure that elephants don't really cause any issues with their props, or props, their crops. Um, I will, and it was just a really fascinating experience. You got to see where they are cared for behind the scenes outside of being on the savannah. So, and this one is a relatively inexpensive one. Another one we're gonna talk about later is inexpensive. This one was just$39 a person, and that's as of 2025. Obviously, there's always changes that can happen, but caring for giants is super fun at Animal Kingdom. So we've talked about one at Magic Kingdom, one at Animal Kingdom. We're and we have several more at Animal Kingdom, but I want to jump over to Epcot and Behind the Seeds, and this is in the land pavilion. And you did, I think you and our daughter, you guys went to the DVC lounge when I went to the show.

SPEAKER_03:

We sure did, it was awesome.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, so this one is behind the seeds, and I will say my family had talked about doing this for years and years and years, and we finally did it. I think about a year and a half ago is when we went. And it is super interesting. If you, I mean, I don't have a green thumb, I don't kill plants, but I'm also not one that is really great at getting them to grow either. But I found it super fascinating. They give you all the behind the scenes about the sustainability, how they do the hydroponics. You get to go in where they have like the fish farm where they have the different seafood that is used in some of the restaurants there, and you learn all about that. You learn about some of the things related to insects that they utilize, how they do all of the different growing in the greenhouses. So it's super, super cool. You get to go behind, like you normally when you take when you go on the ride, you're in the boats and you go through, but this you get to go through walking paths and it's all inside, which is great. So if it's raining outside or something, you do a little bit of a walk when you go out one door to go into another part of the greenhouses, but even if it was raining, you would be totally fine. It's a great entry-level tour for anyone, it's relatively short, they have it throughout the day, and you can just walk up to the kiosk, which is right outside soaring. And so you're you can go grab lunch at down there, maybe ride soaring, and then sign up for the tour. It behind the seeds is super great, and it was a nice experience. And like I said, it wasn't very long. I don't you guys waited for us, and it was maybe an hour at most.

SPEAKER_03:

It was very reasonable.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, and so it's a good way for you to not take too much time from your Disney vacation but still enjoy some of the backstage look. Now, these other two, so I've done these first three that we talked about, and there's another tour that Chris and I did that's like an all-day tour, which we're not gonna talk about that one on this show, but we are gonna talk about two more that are in Animal Kingdom. We have the Wild Africa Trek, and this is essentially a private safari. It's supposed to be really cool, it runs just under$250, and with it you are able to go behind and see all of the different experiences that happen at Animal Kingdom and how they care for some of the different animals. Now, the super cool thing for this tour is they also have photographers on with you and they're taking pictures of you as you're going through and doing kind of this up close savannah truck. So you get a chance to go across some of the rope bridges, and you're gonna have your vehicle that's gonna take you a little bit closer into some of the areas that the regular ride does not go, and then at the end, you're able to get some really great African-inspired snacks. Some of these are things that you have seen on the menus at some of the like quick service, but you get hummus and an olive mix, a chicken wrap, they have some tenduri shrimp, so a good variety of things. But those are some of the African-inspired snacks that they have at the end of the wild Africa truck. So it's a super fun experience. And if you're interested in having a more fulfilling or I guess more filling meal, then you might want to check out the Savor the Savannah. And this is a premium safari where they take you back to there's kind of a pavilion sort of building that you'll see when you are when you've gone past where the lions are as you circle through, where there's usually the a lot of the giraffes in that there. You will typically see you can see it off to the right. Well, as your car to uh as your car curves around, it's going to be in different spots. But originally you'll see it up to the right, and it is going to be where they do a gourmet dinner. It has small plates, wine. It's a very cool like VIP experience. I've known some people that have taken it, and you have it's a little bit more pricey, but it is a super cool experience, especially if you're celebrating a special occasion. Somebody who really loves Animal Kingdom and those experiences. So Savor the Savannah is a premium kind of experience that you have. Really Wild Africa Truck and Savor the Savannah are both great. Another one that is similar to where we had talked about the caring for giants. I almost forgot to mention there's one that's called Up Close with Rhinos, and it's exactly like the elephant one. I've not been on the Rhino one, but only with rhinos. And the cool thing about this is I think to me, you hear more people talk about like elephants and different things like that. You don't hear people talk about rhinos very much.

SPEAKER_03:

You don't.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, so I think it would be cool to take the rhino tour. Right now it's$49. Obviously, those can change, but that again, it's only a one-hour tour. So if you're wanting to try out something like we mentioned, you could do behind the seeds. If you were at Epcot, you could do Caring for Giants or Up Close with Rhinos at Animal Kingdom. Really gives you a great experience. Now, some other things that you can do, some other tours, these are the main ones in the parks. There is also a dive quest at Epcot where you get a chance, if you are a certified diver, to go into the aquariums at Living Seas. They used to have some other tours there, but right now there's just the dive quest. And of course, outside the parks, there are some tours. Just because we talked a lot about Animal Kingdom tours, I want to specifically mention they have a Starlight Safari tour at Animal Kingdom Lodge where you get to wear the night vision glasses and see the animals out on part of the savannas. I think it'd be cool to wear night vision glasses.

SPEAKER_03:

It would be awesome.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, so you can get a chance to do that. So that though, again, is outside the park, so you don't have to have a park ticket, which is an added bonus. All the other ones were ones that you have to have a park ticket for. So just a couple of things for a lot of these tours, you want to check ahead of time. Almost all of these can be booked in advance, and you want to make sure that obviously for these that you have a park ticket to get in. Another thing is that some of them do involve a lot of walking. So if you have anyone in your group with some mobility issues, like when we did the caring for giants, my friend has some challenges when it comes to getting around like walking distances, and she had no problem on that tour at all. They did some accommodations for her. My parents and I, when we did the behind the seats, my Dan has a little bit of mobility issues, but it wasn't too much walking, and there was enough like stopping and things that he was able to make it through. And of course, remember to budget this in, these are all added costs to your to your experiences when you're at the park. So that's something to keep in mind too. So, Chris, if you could only do one of these tours, which one would you do?

SPEAKER_03:

Definitely the one with the rhinos.

SPEAKER_00:

Is it why why that is that?

SPEAKER_03:

Well, just like what you said, I mean, elephants get so much attention.

SPEAKER_00:

That's true.

SPEAKER_03:

But rhinos, they're doing their thing.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, so I I agree. Even because I've already done three of these, I think the rhinos would be maybe next on my bucket list. I would also at some point love to do one of those more premium ones at Animal Kingdom. Probably savor the savannah, because we like to do things that include food. I mean, I know Wild Africa truck includes food, but I would love to maybe have that more, especially if you're celebrating an anniversary or an engagement or a special birthday. But I think, yeah, I agree. On my list would probably be up close with rhinos. So would you be up to taking it with me on a future trip?

SPEAKER_03:

I'll think about it.

SPEAKER_00:

Now, when we look at this, most of these, and you always want to double check, but the ones that you do book advan in advance will take you should book them 60 days out, just like you do with any of the other things. And some things book up fast. Like I was just trying to book a carriage ride at Fort Wilderness, they booked up like instantly at 60 days out. So you want to make sure that you check that out. Really, any of these, are they worth the cost? I think it's it's up to you what you value with your time. If you've already been to Disney quite a bit, this is a great way to kind of up that experience. If you're even new to going to Disney, trying something like behind the seeds or caring for giants or the up close with rhinos gives you a chance to really see all of the additional magic that happens in what Disney puts in to make the parks an awesome and amazing experience. So when it comes to all of these, I think if you are, depending on what you're looking for, these can definitely be worth it. A lot of them offer discounts, they are subject subject to change. Typically, the discounts run about 10% and they can be for annual pass holders, DVC members. They change so frequently, though, it's always important to look that up and ask when you're making a call. Of course, these are gonna be discounts from Disney things, not from like AAA or something like that. So really take a look at all of these. I'll put some links in the show notes to the different tours so you can check them out yourself. And so, after in just a few minutes, we're gonna get up our interview with Stefan from Rabbit Hole Quest. Um, they sound like scavenger hunts, and he'll talk about that initially, but really it's such a cool adventure. It is well beyond just looking through and finding a few clues. It is going through a it's a big adventure. And one of the things is it's kind of like going through an escape room, and he's gonna tell us all kinds of cool things, and they have some at Disneyland, Downtown Disney, and they're working on some new ones coming up, um possibly at Disney World. So we're excited to share that with all of you in a little bit. But before we get that call up, we have a quick message from our friends Eric and Alexa.

SPEAKER_03:

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SPEAKER_00:

I just booked from them again.

SPEAKER_03:

And what I love about them is three things. Number one, that the equipment is top-notch, the customer service is awesome, and the customer service is awesome. They come to they meet you, they're smiling, and what they give you is new equipment that is top quality, and it makes your trip so much easier. You don't have to lug it on the airport, uh, the rental car, the bus, whatnot. Uh reach out to Baby Quip, check the show notes, make your life easier the next time you go to Disney.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, so as Chris mentioned, I will make sure to put their link in the show notes. And so stick around with us, and we are going to get our call up with Stefan. We would like to welcome Stefan to the show. His business, Rabbit Hole Quest Craft, has some really cool experiences that we're going to learn all about. And really, if their ideal customer is anyone who gets to go to Disneyland a lot and wants to experience the park in a new way, if you enjoy going to escape rooms, puzzle sl puzzles, any sort of thing that where you like to be really immersed in a story, you're going to love what Stefan offers. So we'd like to welcome Stefan to the show.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, it is my pleasure. Thank you for having me.

SPEAKER_00:

Now we always start off by asking our guests what they enjoy at the Disney park. So lately we have been asking people, what is your favorite show at any Disney park?

SPEAKER_02:

Boy, so many good shows. Um I'm out here on West Coast, so uh Disneyland is sort of our our home base. And you know, for my money, I don't know that I can beat Phantasmic. Uh the Phantasmic show is so uh has such a great story that plays out because it's so like tight and small. You get to see that whole story play out. Um my wife and I will it's pretty common that we'll go down to the park, uh, you know, we'll we'll get you know dinner at Cafe Orleans, oh nice uh or or uh or Tiana's and just sit there and watch the show. It is so awesome. Um but it's a it's just a wonderful uh it's just a wonderful story to play out. And the kids get so excited, it's great seeing the kids play out too.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, that's for sure. Now you've told us about what you enjoy at the park. So tell us about your business and what you offer connected to Disney.

SPEAKER_02:

Sure. So uh our little uh our little home is Rabbit Hole Questcraft. We make um, I guess the best way to describe it is escape room style games you play out in the open, but inside the park. So it's um the games are are uh story-based, uh fairly immersive in that way. You solve clues, crack codes. Um, you're playing in your own time, it's not a race. You're given a uh a lanyard inside the lanyard of a series of clues. So it's called based on what those clues say, you have to determine what location in the park uh you need to go to. And once you get at that location, uh you have to follow the clue to understand what it is you need to do at that location. And in most cases, it's some form of code or cipher or something that you have to kind of solve in order to get to uh get to the answer. Uh most of our games are uh have between five and ten clues, and inside the lanyard is not only the clues, but you always have a pencil that uh to be able to write with. And then there's usually some odd things that are in the lanyard as well that uh work their way into a clue if you can figure out how to use it. And then once you've solved all the clues, you have everything you need you need to solve the final clue. When you solve the final clue, it gives you the combination to a lock. That lock, there's a there's a locked envelope attached to the back of the uh of the lanyard. And when you put in that code in the lock, you can open the open the envelope and you get a prize. It's the treasure that you find at the end. It also uh completes the story that you're following. There's a story at the very beginning of this that you uh that you understand you're following. Story plays out as you go through the game, and then the end of the story is also inside the envelope as well. So it's a bit of a treasure hunt. We've always said it's sort of national treasure meets Goonies. You kind of do it in your own time. Um, most games take between, well, you know, if you're if you're Amanda and Kevin from Where in the Park, who are absolute uh superstars at solving games, it might take you an hour to get through the game. Um we have found most people take about two hours. We try to keep the game footprint relatively under control so you're not traversing the entirety of the park in order to solve clues. But um, because you're solving them in your own time and it's not a race, you can you can solve clues and then go on rides and you can you know get some food. You don't have to solve the entire game all at once. You can do it throughout your day, uh, or you can choose to just go in the park and this is what you're gonna do. So it's um it was all born from from experiences my uh my wife and I and our daughter had. I've been um I'm in Southern California and I've been around uh Disney my entire life. My dad was um my dad was in the the uh Disneyland band when I was growing up. So I think as an eight-year-old, you're played uh he played he played trump he well, he played all brass, but he played trumpet in the band. So um yeah, my mom would go down and sit incarnation and just watch him go up and down. And then, you know, as an eight-year-old, I'm running around Disneyland, but uh I'm pretty old. So back then you had you had tickets for rides, and dad got three tickets, but the only tickets he got were a ticket ride. Which is pretty much the merry-go-round. Uh on that. So uh I've ridden that merry-go-round it's gotta be a thousand times. Um as an eight-year-old, you're running around Disneyland, and you know, back then you just think it's it's like you know, the park on the corner because you're there so often, and uh you don't realize how special it is until you grow up and you bring your kids to it. We brought we have one daughter, and um you know she was uh we brought her actively to the park. We were we've been annual pass holders for a long time, and um, we've grown up in that environment. And to make her experiences a little a little different, a little fun, we started making these little games for her. Uh they started off with scavenger hunts, but then they they as she got older, she was getting faster. And so we had to start writing clues as part of them. And it sort of evolved into this thing that we just did for our family. Well, uh a year and a half ago, our daughter's like they're she's grown now and married, and she's um you know, for her for her wedding, we built her a game, uh, a new custom game that she went and played with her new husband. And uh they're both fantastic at it. They they they make terrible testers because they just get through it so quickly. But um they just they just run through it. But uh after that game, she was the one that convinced us and said and said, Dad, you gotta make these available for other people. There are so many annual pass holders that come in these gates that would love a two-hour different thing to do in the park when they came on a Thursday night or on a Saturday, you know, or Sunday or whatever. And so we took her up on it. And so we've we made our first game, we tested it, we uh we made it available, and then we built one for DCA, and we built one for downtown Disney, and now we're in the middle of building our second game for Disneyland.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, you really hit up on you know why you started the business. Tell me, when was your first sale to somebody who was not in the family?

SPEAKER_02:

Oh uh, not in the family. That was pretty exciting. Well, we do we do a testing phase where where uh we were using Facebook and Instagram to to find other annual pass holders who would test the game for us. And so uh we tested with um we tested twice for the Disneyland game with two different groups. And uh one of them ended up being the first purchase. Our very first purchase was one of the people who tested the game. Uh they bought it for uh their friends who they wanted to have play the game as well. Um I didn't know it at the time um that they were the first ones, but then after their friends play, they uh they told us that that uh because it was a different name that ended up buying it, but they were the ones that tested the game. And I'm like, you should have told me, I would have given you one to have played it on your own, you know, thanking them for testing it. But they were they were our first sale. That was about a year and a half ago.

SPEAKER_00:

That is awesome. Now you've touched a little bit about how like you were really inspired about creating something for annual pass holders and from your experiences with your family. Overall, how do you think that your products, like how do these quests add magic to your customers' lives?

SPEAKER_02:

Well, I mean, the the park itself, uh as you know, there's so much rich history that exists there that even annual pass holders who go all the time, um, I think in a lot of ways, because we have been at the we've been in the park so much, there's things that we miss. And frankly, even someone I've been I've been going to the park for 40 years. And in in that time, uh when I'm researching a game, I see things I never saw before. So one of the things that we've we've heard from folks is as they play the game, they they're experiencing parts of the park that that they have, it's not that they've never seen it, but they've forgotten it's there because it's not part of their routine or part of their ritual. Um, but in addition to that, um the game, while while the the primary game is analog, it's all done on paper and you're writing uh and you're you're solving things uh on paper, there's a digital component to it that allows you to validate your answers. So if you think you have an answer right, you go to a particular URL that's listed on the clue. And in that on that URL, you can see if you've got the answer right or wrong. If you've got the answer right, it'll tell you you got it right. And then it gives you a little, we call the nuggets of no. It's a little piece of information about where you're most likely standing right now in the park. So little bits of facts, little things that you think you might not know about the about the area that you're in. And and we've heard from uh our the customers have heard from other people who have played the game that there was there's just facts and things that they never knew about the park uh that we were able to kind of give them and provide for them. And our our our fans have even given us um, hey, did you know that that uh about this area of this and this and this? We didn't know that we've added to that. So it kind of gives that when you talk about that magic, it's just you know, enjoying the park in a way that you may never never have known uh never have enjoyed before or never known before.

SPEAKER_03:

Now you you mentioned you know folks who have tested it. You know, for folks who are gonna go have an upcoming trip and want to buy this, where can people go online?

SPEAKER_02:

Uh our website is rabbitholequestcraft.com. Uh you can buy it right there on the site. We also have uh an Etsy, uh an Etsy store. So you can go on to Etsy and you can search for Rabbit Hole Questcraft. You'll find all of our games there as well. Right now we have one for Disneyland, we have one for uh California Adventure, and then we have one that we built for downtown Disney for the folks that That you know may have um may have the the lower end passes or the Southern California passes, and there's those blackout periods in the middle of the summer that they still want a little bit of Disney magic but can't go in the park. Uh so we allow we've we've built a game around downtown Disney that you can kind of play. Uh that's available as well. Um we are in the middle of building our second Disneyland game right now. Uh something we've been talking about, uh talking with Amanda and Kevin with over at uh Where in the Park to collaborate with us around um a main uh Main Street only uh noir heist thriller game where all the clues take place along Main Street. Um so uh they're helping us out with that um and and uh providing uh some much needed creativity to the mix and having other people who have played the game participate as well.

SPEAKER_03:

That's awesome. And then again, if I were to be going, let's say I ordered today, what is the expected turnaround time for production and delivery?

SPEAKER_02:

Sure. Uh I mean we we ship same day, uh at the very least the next day. And it's usually two to three day shipping. Admittedly, almost everyone who purchases the games are within the Southern California area. They're all annual pass holders around here. But uh just recently we sent one to Hawaii. We've sent uh plenty to the East Coast of folks who are coming into town. Uh it's usually a three-day thing. So if you're if you're on the East Coast and you're coming into Disneyland, uh I would say give it three days and and you'll have uh you'll have the the game pack in front of you. We ship it in a in a box, uh something we had to learn. We used to ship them in envelopes and found uh found out they were getting a little damaged. So now they're they're shipping in something a bit more sturdier. And it's also part of the uh the experience. The box becomes part of the experience as well. So I'd say give it three days and you'll have it in your hands.

SPEAKER_00:

Now, one more quick question, and you might not know the exact date, but we are recording on Halloween. And do you expect to have your second Disneyland quest out by the end of the year? Or what what time frame should people keep in mind for that to see that Main Street one?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, our goal is to launch in January. Uh, we have found that the holidays, with all of the theming and decorations that are up, uh, you know, folks like to go and enjoy that. We don't we don't see a lot of folks who are playing, at least we didn't last year, playing during the holidays because there's so much more to do at Disneyland and DCA. Uh, but our goal is to start testing early January and have that game available by the end of January.

SPEAKER_00:

Awesome. Well, we will make sure in January, we'll have you let us know when you launch and we'll make sure to share out all of your information again. We really appreciate you taking time to join us today. And of course, it's always great to connect. As he mentioned several times, we all know Kevin and Amanda from where in the so it's always great if we can connect with other people within the Disney community where we're all kind of known each other and gotten a chance to meet. So thank you so much for joining us today.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, it's my pleasure. Thank you for having me. I'm I'm incredibly honored. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03:

Thank you again to Stefan for joining us today.

SPEAKER_00:

And now we are on to our two-minute trivia and our wisdom from Walt Coat. So, Chris, you are up with trivia.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay. As in most places in Disney, there are corporate sponsors of areas. Yes. The land has had two uh corporate sponsors. Who are they? Who were they?

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, I'm gonna guess Nestle as well. Okay, because they used to have a chocolate chip cookie making experience or something down by the food court area. And there's a second one? Or there is one, or there it's they're past tense.

SPEAKER_03:

Past tense. These are actually Nestle was a sponsor.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, okay.

SPEAKER_03:

And this was also it was the initial, the inaugural sponsor.

SPEAKER_00:

Nestle was or the one I'm missing.

SPEAKER_03:

Nestle was the second sponsor.

SPEAKER_00:

Ooh, what was the inaugural one?

SPEAKER_03:

It it's a food brand. You'll you know it. I mean you've seen it. There I bet you in the low end there we have ten of their products in our fridge right now.

SPEAKER_00:

Now you've now you've put the pressure on and now I don't know. I'm not quite sure.

SPEAKER_01:

Kraft.

SPEAKER_00:

I almost said craft or heinz, but then I was like, Heinz, we don't have ten types of ketchup in our fridge. Kraft, huh? I don't think I remember that. It must have been I wonder what years they were from. Interesting. I'm gonna have to look that up.

SPEAKER_03:

I have another one for you.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay.

SPEAKER_03:

Soaring is one of our favorites.

SPEAKER_00:

Sure.

SPEAKER_03:

What was before soaring?

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, I'm trying to think. I don't think wait, Kitchen Cabaret was on the other side of the of the property. Food rocks was, I think, on the other side. Was Food Rocks there?

SPEAKER_03:

You're right.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, Food Rocks, okay, nice. I couldn't remember if it was there, if it was on the other side of like of Spaceship Earth over by like Test Track and that. Awesome. That was a good show, too. So we're gonna end now with our Wisdom from Walt quote. And I thought because we were talking about learning things and being able to experience new things, this quote was from Walt Disney talking about like young people in the future and kind of exploring and learning. Shorten to the point, people sort of live in the dark about things. So I think that's really perfect for talking about tours. Instead of living in the dark about knowing how they care for rhinos or elephants or how they do the hydroponics, take one of these tours and learn about it and have a great experience. And then you're no longer in the dark about all of these different things. So I think that is a great quote from Walt. And thank you so much for joining us on this episode. Don't forget to check out all of our other episodes on our Buzz Sprout page and of course to follow us on social media. Thank you so much for joining us. I'm Vanessa.

SPEAKER_03:

And I'm Chris.